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You know, I look around. I make mental notes. I register spiritual ones.

And I have seen that those who talk about grace and love and oneness are happy, yet are constantly attacked by those who talk about scriptures and dogmas…. and they are not happy, not really. Happy people don’t act like that.

It’s beginning to be a no-brainer. Look to the thing that produces love and joy. Look to what God is speaking to your heart.

Grace is… beautiful…


As I step out of the system called religion, and into Abba, I am constantly left high on the pure air of his spirit. He whispers, “Love!”

Believing dogma over what the heart says is, well, unnatural. And I’ve been there. What kind of freak was I? It’s hard to remember, now that freedom and grace and love have won me.


This is by a special guest writer and good friend:

 The Knowledge of Good and Evil

I was inspired by a friend this morning, preaching about the nature of good and evil and how it relates to us in terms of “the Gospel” and every day life.

A couple of things that I have been struggling to express for a long time fell into place for me.

The problem all began back in “the garden” (I don’t care whether it was a story or a fact – doesn’t change anything) when Adam and Steve, I mean Eve, ate from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil (cue dramatic music).

Basically, they wanted to know the nature of everything in terms of two defined moral and ethical standards, standards they could describe in black and white – standards that required no decisions based on relationship, empathy, love or passion.

Just Good or Evil.

They walked away from relationship, and this is the whole basis of human thinking ever since. We are obsessed with defining everything in terms of good – evil, moral – immoral, ethical – unethical, ad infinitum…

So the greatest challenge to christians is the whole concept that Jesus completely did away with anything to do with that Tree. He didn’t come to help us make better decisions about good and evil, right and wrong. He didn’t come to give us the strength to choose good and right. He didn’t come to give us the power to resist evil and bad things. He didn’t even come to help us sort out our problems.

He came to rip out the tree by its roots!

EVERYTHING Jesus did was to reveal/point us to our unity with God (that was established before the foundation of the world…) – i.e. relationship! There is no more right or wrong, good or bad – there is only relationship with God. Relationship with LOVE himself (I only use the masculine pronoun because english doesn’t have a non-gendered personal pronoun).

I will never get anywhere if I keep thinking about how sinful I am, how much wrong and bad I do, how bad everyone is, how right or wrong/good or evil the world is etc. That thinking is anti-christ. It is negating everything God did in his Jesus manifestation.

Yes, I know, the first thing that pops into my head is “what about the wrong/bad/evil things that people do – that I do?” But let’s stop for a minute, and look at this. Everything is lawful/permissible but not everything is a great idea. Some things have crappy, and even horrific consequences. But the good news is that doesn’t affect our union with God in the slightest – not one little iddy bit. So He’s cool with whatever, but we do stuff that doesn’t help ourselves or others – its not “beneficial”. In other words, its not love – it doesn’t come from (yes you guessed it) relationship!

So now what? Be responsible for the mess you make, in the full knowledge that you and those affected by those non-beneficial actions are actually completely loved and also free from the nasty tree. If I don’t forgive myself, I’m saying I’m more important than God, I have greater power and authority, because he GOT RID OF THE TREE OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL. He doesn’t even judge me, because he doesn’t see us in that light.

I make bad decisions because my mind IS BEING RENEWED to realise my unconditional love union with him.

This is not making light of the messes and damage we do through stupid actions. It is the only solution!

Here’s my idea of how things work (very simplistic, cos if kids don’t get it, it must be wrong).

  1. No good or evil – just love union with God
  2. I can make decisions/actions that do not benefit me or someone else
  3. I take the most loving actions that reflect my union with God to reconcile those affected and fix the mess
  4. I love those affected by the decision – including myself – and move on, refusing to be judged further on the matter by anyone – including myself. 
  5. All my actions are to be governed by love relationship, NOT by right or wrong, good or evil.
This may sound petty or stupid and just ignoring huge amounts of “reality”. But its the only way forward. I am no longer to think in terms of sin. God doesn’t, so its the height of pride and arrogance for me to think that way. In fact its denying everything God established “before the foundations of the world” for us to live in unity with him and everyone else.
My un-renewed mind still wants “good and evil” because it gives me the power to judge and condemn, myself and everyone else. But Jesus grabs us by the hand, pulls us into the arms of God and only ever tells us about how much we are loved. That alone bring us to repentance, and repentance just simply and purely means changing our mind – that’s it, no guilt and remorse, shame or self flagellation, just changing our mind about being separated from God in any way.
I am whole, loved and complete. I’m still being renewed to this fact, but that does not change anything. Jesus restored us to relationship – end of story. I will not hold anyone in judgement, and I will not allow other’s judgments to affect me. 
The more I awake to my intimate union with God, the more I will be love, with no thought of good or evil.
This is true freedom. A license to sin? Sorry, I don’t know what sin is any more.

And this will annoy a LOT of people.

(Joe Black is a guest poster. I love what he has said.)

THAT WORD WRATH.. what does it mean.. ?

by Joe Black (Notes) on Friday, May 10, 2013 at 7:25pm

That Word Wrath…what does it mean?

Many have rejected the word “wrath,” for which I don’t blame them, as presented to us through the church, we were made to think God hated his very own creation,  and can still do so…that misconception developed out of Judaism, and much of the OT darkness of man’s minds  found in all religions..  and established  in the church…through the lie of Penal Substitution Atonement teaching and that came of Anshelm largely built upon Augustine’s misunderstandings.. who was still apparently thinking God hated him, as if the things he had done or was doing.. was His Identity.. when it wasn’t.. .CHRIST WAS AND IS…. ..

God is love.. pure love.. and pure love is from which we were created  and all creation came forth and IN PERFECT LOVE…. and that has never changed.. the word “orge” means the passion of God, GOD IS AGAPE…..yes, LOVE is passionately in love with us all and that love can quite be misperceived and misunderstood.. when it is thought to be God against mankind… IT IS NOT….

His love is a violent PASSIONATE love for us, at all times.. passionate and full of mercy and grace.. so in our ignorance while we believed God did not love us.. all the while LOVE was.. and the things that we made our perceptions about us, and Him/Her WHO IS LOVE…. that were outside of us based on the tree of the knowledge of good and evil were misperceptions…. .Law was not given to strengthen our carnal minds or perceptions but to break it all down… We perceived or thought that LOVE was against us and not for us..(IN OUR MINDS WE ACTUALLY THOUGHT LOVE COULD HATE..) this is the wrath in which the church has come to believe in as if God hates and must extract blood from someone in order to love us..

IT WAS GOD IN CHRIST.. conciliating the world .. UNTO HIMSELF.. not God outside of Yeshua, beating the crap out of His Son..  It wasn’t God that needed to judge something.. it was man that thinks he did.. So God said here is my heart and do with what you will and so MAN JUDGED MAN..

This BELIEF of God has to have something killed and presented as a blood sacrifice.. is nothing more then pagan religions going way back in time. in their use.. of sacrifice of both human and animal.. thinking that god or their gods could be appeased.. LOVE NEEDS NO APPEASEMENT.. LOVE JUST IS…… and it is totally out of line with the Truth and Perfect believe such garbage… . it is ill conceived from the minds of those, who yet have not realized the TREE OF LIFE (Christ, God, Spirit- Love) IS IN THEM..

THIS LOVE, CHRIST IS OUR REALITY…OUR LIFE.. but until we realize that passionate love for us and in us…. and that it is against anything other then the creature.. MANKIND, HIS CREATION.. anything other that comes between our understanding relationship with that of our Father who His Perfect and Pure Love (AGAPE).

This love is always toward never ending,  that love  which is already in us, and as us.. then individuals will continue to look to the circumstances of life outside of themselves, as if Perfect Pure Love was against them or even schizophrenic.. “he loves me, he loves me not”……. but if God be for you, who or what can be against you.. nothing can separate us from who He is, LOVE.

For it is His passionate love.. FIRE.. that Yeshua said.. “ALL” will be salted by Fire.. Our God is a consuming fire..  IT BURNS UP ALL THAT STANDS BETWEEN YOU AND LOVE…but not YOU.. as the object of that LOVE.. ALL come out on the other side of this passionate love with understanding.. ., it is his “Touchstone” (that seems as torment for us.. while we don’t know and understand yet this LOVE..and it is.. because Christ and you ARE ONE….. that brings out the gold (Wisdom and Understanding.. Christ YOUR LIFE REALIZED)…

That word torment in Revelations is (BASANIZO) it is of a corrective nature not is PASSIONATE LOVE FOR US AND TOWARD US.. until we realize that LOVE IS ALL THERE IS….The Christ in us.. is unveiled..

That which is LOVE..  is against the very *thing that keeps us from understanding that relationship, *(anything that gives us a double-mind) yes, even and especially religion.. no matter in whatever form or any kind…Love is not and never against YOU..

IT IS FOR YOU…..  that nature and essence of what God is – PURE, ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT LOVE  and who we are.. the very Sons of God..  THE SEED CHRIST SON OF GOD IS THE SEED WHICH IS OUR LIFE.. even from the beginning.. even before LOVE.. said Let there BE LIGHT.. and the LIGHT WAS PREFERRED OVER THE DARKNESS… and that Light is the light that comes into the world and light every man..

LOVE IS NEVER AGAINST THE OBJECT OF HIS LOVE.. which IS YOU…..The carnal mind is at enmity with God. that thought of mankind that thinks it is or has been separated from PERFECT LOVE….. and Passionate Love is establishing in your thoughts.. that WORD , we all have called out or will call out sooner or later… Abba ..  help me.. and a father WHO IS LOVE .. never turns down the request of HIS SON.. Christ (HIS LIFE-OUR LIFE)..

The fire gets turned down… you could say at least it seems in our mis-perceptions that God must hate me.. .. because now you know this love.. that all this time.. was coming to us.. not to destroy us.. or torture us.. but to release us into that love WHICH IS…YOU AND CHRIST….ONE….

Perfect Love (AGAPE) seeks your best, never kept account of wrong…. but it doesn’t rejoice in any evil. nor does PERFECT LOVE call its children evil.. whatever would keep you from understanding GOD IS LOVE….and your complete and EXISTING ALREADY absolute identity- ONENESS WITH CHRIST).. His everlasting and forever LOVE FOR HIS HUMANITY WAS ALWAYS THERE beating down the door of ignorance.. passionately……… death is the last enemy.. and Christ victoriously arose..

Christ has risen in all of us.. If Christ died for all.. then ALL DIED.. If Christ be alive.. then Christ is OUR LIFE….Christ is the LAST ADAM.. the LIFE GIVING SPIRIT…(God breathed the BREATH OF LIFE into MANKIND) His Spirit, and our Spirit. ARE ONE…yet men didn’t perceive that and many do not yet.. but truth is truth.. whether you believe it or not..

THE SPIRIT OF THE LIVING WORD IS IN YOU ) Christ- “perfect love- “..  for we are One.. don’t mistake the things in life, that happen as if God was against you, don’t judge against the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.. but see HIS LOVE IS THE TREE OF LIFE that you hungered for was already there IN YOU…… HE HAS ALWAYS AND PASSIONATELY LOVED HIS CHILDREN.. and WE.. “ALL” .. ARE THE OFFSPRING OF PERFECT LOVE.. ie…..GOD IS LOVE….never is  or was GOD- PURE LOVE -HATE..IMPOSSIBLE…. no matter what you think.. the TRUTH IS… GOD IS LOVE….pure and unconditional love..

AGAPE doesn’t need your recognition (not self-seeking) but it is WE THAT NEED TO KNOW… WHO WE ARE.. and WE AREN’T WHAT WE DO.. BUT WHO WE ARE IN HIM…it is we that as sheep that had all gone astray.. God never left to go anywhere.. HE COULDN’T LEAVE.. CHRIST WAS IN US…..the secret hidden throughout the ages,, now revealed.. .  love so GIVES because that is ALL IT CAN DO… love will not quit.. loving.. because Love never fails.. whether one realizes LOVE IS.. and that we are the object of that LOVE in our UNION WITH CHRIST.. established before the foundation of the world or we don’t..

PASSIONATE LOVE “orge” will always be present toward YOU.. HIS EXTREMELY PASSIONATE LOVE..mistaken for hate.. until you finally rest.. in that love.. and nothing else.. WHERE YOU FINALLY REALIZE .. CHRIST ALL IN ALL – GOD ALL IN ALL

Awake to the Love that is toward you and in you… that abides forever more…. and whatever stands between you knowing that.. it will soon disappear… and be eliminated..abolished in your life..  and the Christ who is your life.. will soon appear in YOU.. and AS YOU.. One Spirit.. One Life..




Please.. never see the word wrath again.. as if GOD COULD EVER HATE YOU…. or ANYONE.. we are the object of LOVE AS CHRIST.. and shall always BE….  whether we experience His violent love (which shakes both heaven and earth- those things temporal) or love in peace.(those things of the new heaven and earth- the permanent)  LOVE NEVER FAILS..  LOVE NEVER RETURNED TO GOD VOID.. because it can’t.. LOVE IS.. There is no other thing.. in heaven, earth or under the earth.. then LOVE….GOD IS ALL IN ALL..

Shalom… I have peace that passes all understanding.. THE PEACE OF LOVE….(GOD)… “I AM”…
One with the Father and the Son…  ONE SPIRIT (GOD), ONE LIFE (CHRIST), ONE LORD (OUR EXISTENCE)..


Blessings.. LOVERS.. WE ARE LOVED.. COMPLETELY and there is no shadow of turning..

Grace and Truth be unto you…  in Christ Jesus.. our Lord.. (our existence..)

AIN’T LOVE … GOOD… hmm… hmmm .. good..

– Joe Black


What does is mean to worship, not at a mountain/place, but in spirit and in truth? Does it mean we have to be “spirit filled” in order to be the worshippers the Father seeks? Who in their right mind worships their father anyway?

I think that worship in spirit and truth means to do what Jesus did. Live in love and grace, and share it with others. All that is required is to merely be ourselves, one with God and spirit, and by extension, one with all. When we sing of our joy over this, know He is singing it with us. Worship? Not so much. Oneness and joining in the divine dance.  That is how I see it.


Morality concerns right and wrong. We all think we must choose. Everyone has a conscience. It’s built into us, ever since Eden.

Morality implies that God is rewarding and punishing. He is not.

Believers know we are made right by Christ. Yet we also must choose. But when we choose the unwise or harmful thing, it is not held against us by God. What we do is continue to act in love. This is where grace leads us.

The capacity for love is in everyone, and grace influences everyone. Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord, remember. But none are being ‘held accountable’ because Jesus did indeed reconcile all things.

Accountability and offense were only connected to the law of Moses. It was given to the Jews, and not the Gentiles. All peoples went by what their consciences told them, a sort of natural law place in them by God. But their decisions were not held against any by God.

The power of love and grace in our lives is what makes us free from having to choose right or wrong. It is the very gospel. When we live knowing we are loved by God, we can then love others.

We are rescued from morality, to live by His life in us. Those who are not doing this have not believed the good news. They are still choosing right and wrong, and worried about reward and punishment for those choices.

Living by grace is denying nothing that Jesus did, as some charge! He did it all and it is finished. This is the good news.


Jesus is our example. He didn’t crush a bent reed or put out a smoking wick. The only ones he ‘scourged’ were the money changers in the temple, and it’s not clear if He actually lashed any… only drove them out. I picture a cowboy with a whip or lariat whirling over His head in a threatening may. And the scourging thing may have been a figure of speech or a reference to an OT passage.

God is love, and love does not harm….. If we look at 2 Cor 13, we see that love always seeks the good, does not remember wrongs.

So, we learn by the grace in our hearts, which teaches us godliness (His ways). There are no written rules under grace, but that still small voice, that twinge in your conscience or even in your being, sort of in the pit of your stomach. And if you are on the right track, it’s that little glow, that feeling of pleasure, of liking.

God puts that there. And it will not disagree with His character, His love. If it does not line up with love and the fruit of the spirit, it is coming from your own selfish desires. It is not sin, it just the flesh being itself. When you see you may be operating from there, get back unto love.

In the OT a scourge was a rod… like the one Moses lifted up against the Red Sea. The enemies were drowned. The word used in the NT means to flog or whip or scourge. In Hebrews 12:6, where the word is used in combination with discipline, the word can be literal or figurative.

Hebrews is address to the Jewish believers for the purpose of teaching them what the New Covenant means. We should not be applying everything in it to our lives now, because we no real reference to that context. Gentiles and never had the law, and if we are from a Jewish background, the law was taken away at the cross.

In Psalm 23, the rod and staff are a comfort. Could it be that what we are really talking about is that God leads us (the shepherd doesn’t drive the sheep, but leads them) and God raises

You maybe have heard this: “….as He is so are we in this world.” (1 John 4:17b).

Some have been told this means we are like Christ, that we are in fact Christ (or that He is us) the word made flesh.

Well, don’t believe everything you hear. One snippet out of context is not doctrine. They even leave out the word “because” and just quote the last bit.

Please read the whole thing. Read it in other versions. Get what it says.

1 John chapter 4 (The Message)

Don’t Believe Everything You Hear 

1My dear friends, don’t believe everything you hear. Carefully weigh and examine what people tell you. Not everyone who talks about God comes from God. There are a lot of lying preachers loose in the world.

2Here’s how you test for the genuine Spirit of God. Everyone who confesses openly his faith in Jesus Christ–the Son of God, who came as an actual flesh-and-blood person–comes from God and belongs to God. 3And everyone who refuses to confess faith in Jesus has nothing in common with God. This is the spirit of antichrist that you heard was coming. Well, here it is, sooner than we thought!

4My dear children, you come from God and belong to God. You have already won a big victory over those false teachers, for the Spirit in you is far stronger than anything in the world. 5These people belong to the Christ-denying world. They talk the world’s language and the world eats it up. 6But we come from God and belong to God. Anyone who knows God understands us and listens. The person who has nothing to do with God will, of course, not listen to us. This is another test for telling the Spirit of Truth from the spirit of deception.

God Is Love 

7My beloved friends, let us continue to love each other since love comes from God. Everyone who loves is born of God and experiences a relationship with God. 8The person who refuses to love doesn’t know the first thing about God, because God is love–so you can’t know him if you don’t love.9This is how God showed his love for us: God sent his only Son into the world so we might live through him. 10This is the kind of love we are talking about–not that we once upon a time loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as a sacrifice to clear away our sins and the damage they’ve done to our relationship with God.

11My dear, dear friends, if God loved us like this, we certainly ought to love each other. 12No one has seen God, ever. But if we love one another, God dwells deeply within us, and his love becomes complete in us–perfect love!

13This is how we know we’re living steadily and deeply in him, and he in us: He’s given us life from his life, from his very own Spirit. 14Also, we’ve seen for ourselves and continue to state openly that the Father sent his Son as Savior of the world.

15Everyone who confesses that Jesus is God’s Son participates continuously in an intimate relationship with God. 16We know it so well, we’ve embraced it heart and soul, this love that comes from God. God is love. When we take up permanent residence in a life of love, we live in God and God lives in us.

To Love, to Be Loved 

17This way, love has the run of the house, becomes at home and mature in us, so that we’re free of worry on Judgment Day–our standing in the world is identical with Christ’s.

18There is no room in love for fear. Well-formed love banishes fear. Since fear is crippling, a fearful life–fear of death, fear of judgment–is one not yet fully formed in love.

19We, though, are going to love–love and be loved. First we were loved, now we love. He loved us first.

20 If anyone boasts, “I love God,” and goes right on hating his brother or sister, thinking nothing of it, he is a liar. If he won’t love the person he can see, how can he love the God he can’t see? 21 The command we have from Christ is blunt: Loving God includes loving people. You’ve got to love both.


You know, what I was looking for, I had all along. I got it when I first met Jesus. Then I was in Oz for a while, on a journey, ever learning bunches of stuff. Then I finally saw that what I was looking for I had all along. I’ve come home to just Jesus.

I see Him clearer now, through the eyes of grace. I was on the yellow brick road for thirty-eight years. Some of it was scary, but most of it was very beautiful. I didn’t know until recently that I had the power to just see Him.

I had it all along. It’s called faith. It’s called love. It’s called knowing.

There’s no place like home!


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